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I just had a discussion with an aspiring writer and manga artist at the convention last week. He told me he has good ideas for a story he's writing, but as he's terrible at drawing, he needed a manga artists to draw the actual manga for him. As he seemed to be pretty serious about it, he tried already to make contact with several artists. But as he doesn't earn money (because... hey... there's no manga yet) he didn't actually pay an artist for the work. As a result, most of the artist gave up after a few pages. Either that, or the art quality was (in his eyes) not good enough.
As a teacher for the mangaschool organisation, I see a lot of this kind of people. More than I'd like to, actually. This guy was a case book example of the young, aspiring, wannabe manga writer that doesn't understand that you have to invest in something, before you can actually get something from it. Especially when it comes to art.
He kept on ranting about how people didn't draw stuff for them, or how they weren't as good as he wanted them to be... when I told him: You don't pay them, so it's voluntary work for them. They don't have a single obligation to stay and make your shit -- so you could earn money for THEIR freakin' work!!! Needless to say... he wasn't really convinced by my words. He'll probably keeps trying to find a free artist for the next 5 years, keeps getting disappointed, and keeps ranting. Oh well...
Still, it does make me feel a bit sad for those in the graphic industry.
I recently stumbled across this website: allartnopay.tumblr.com/ . Very harsh and confronting, but this is basically how people see art, nowadays. And this is the reason why people always talk about the typically 'starving artists'. Because really, there's no pay in it. People expect you to do shit for free, and start bitching you around when you don't meet their expectations.
I'm in computer programming myself. Web programming, to be more specific. It used to be a business similar to art, in the early days of the internet. Similar in a way that you, as programmer, was seen as some child with a hobby and people expected you to do stuff for free. I did stuff for free, when I was 14 years old, or something. I stopped doing so, when I got sick of the ungrateful reactions of people when things didn't turn out as expected. I mean... I was doing stuff for free... in my FREE time. Why would you be ungrateful if somebody does something for you, all free?
As the years progressed, web programming became less childish and more complicated. While it used to be very easy for kids to master, it's now a serious business and it'll take most people a few years to actually master it. People started to see us more as technical expert, than as the child hobbyists we used to be, so the pay got better. Sure, there are people that still expect me to do stuff for free, but I laugh at them and tell them that I ain't gonna do work for free that I can earn a lot of euro's from when I do it for a professional company.
The reason that the whole art-thing bothers me, is that I've seriously thought about becoming an artist, at a certain point of my life. Yeah... I've always had a bit of drawing skills, and I've been designing from years. My school was a combination of graphic design and technological stuff. While I really liked the designing and drawing part, I chose to take the more technical path at that point of my career, just because I felt it was nearly impossible to earn money with just design. And I wasn't wrong. Many of those that did the designing course, and that I still speak to, have been jobless many times, and get pays far under my level... while they can actually design really nice stuff. Hearing that made me realize I was lucky to like the programming as well, but it makes me somehow feel sad for those that chose to do what they love, but don't get any appreciation for it.
I feel the same about all those artists on DA, that are offering their commissions for 10 point.
Do you have any idea how much 10 points is worth in money? No less than 9 cents! You're selling your valuable time and skills for a lousy 9 cents!!!
So to all artist that are reading this now. Let's stop this madness.
No more commissions for 9 cents. No more doing stuff for free (unless it's an art trade or collab).
No more allowing people to abuse your skills for their own good.
You are better than that!
I'm still alive
It's been a while since I last posted and people have sending me worried messages, so I wanted to let you all know I'm doing fine. I don't have corona and I'm not dead. My computer broke down a while ago, and the consistent problems of working with a broken system and not having the money to properly fix or replace it eventually made me very demotivated to draw. As an artist I've always suffered from self-doubt and massive imposter syndrome. No matter how good I get, I'm always critical at my work. The last batch of commissions I did (even though for a good cause) just emphasized that feeling of not being creatively ready to venture into professional spheres. I honestly respect the people who do, but it's not for me. The pressure of having to churn out quality work on a time limit (next to my regular work) burned me out, and I needed some time off the internet to recuperate. Thank you all for your supportive messages. I'm trying to pick up my art again. Slowly, and working on my
Emergency commissions for vet bills [ON HOLD]
Update April 23, 2020
I'm literally blown away by all the response I got.
I have now filled up a first batch of commissions.
As much as will help me cover the initial bill. And as much as will be possible to deliver, considering I have to do those drawings in my free time (I have a regular job to attend as well).
I expect to deliver commissions somewhere over the upcoming 6 weeks.
Depending on the situation with the cat I might open up more commissions in the future.
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Hey guys.
My beloved cat, Pepper, fell sick. I had to go take her to the vet. It's at this moment yet uncertain what's wrong with her, but she needed to get b
Git gud
It's so tiring to hear people dismiss the ability to create art as sheer talent, and tell me they could never do the same as I do. What do you expect me to answer? That some divine being came down and blessed me with the ability to do art? And you haven't got that divine skill, so you never could do it, and we should all pity you for it?
The truth is that there isn't much of a difference, except that I spend a lot of time creating art. I learned how to draw hands, because I've drawn hundreds of them over the last couple of years. I learned writing because I write nearly every day, and read books when I don't. I spend a lot of time creating a
2019 art goals
Leaving this year as a reminder to myself.
:bulletblack: Drawing more detailed environments
:bulletgreen: Drawing more figures in perspective (Ref: http://www.posemaniacs.com/ ?)
:bulletgreen: Drawing more hands & feet
:bulletgreen: Finish writing my 5175 short story
:bulletblack: Joining#100headschallenge (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0A_kQsxeeTE)
:bulletred: Joining AdorkaStock (https://www.deviantart.com/adorkastock)'s DEJ 2019 (if organized this year)
If you're aware of any fun art challenges I might be interested in (geared towards improvement), please let me know.
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Here in the states its bad, a trip to craigslist and most jobs simply say "It'll look good on your portfolio!" with no money available, or there will be some writer who'll pay you once your works done and their books selling, IF it sells.
I'm not the best artist by any means, but to make a decent living I've had to resort to merchant work with buying\selling things, I'm lucky if I can even afford gas!
I'm not the best artist by any means, but to make a decent living I've had to resort to merchant work with buying\selling things, I'm lucky if I can even afford gas!